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Pipa Porto
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Posted - 2012.09.15 08:12:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Roime wrote:Hisec is full of missioning bots, because L4s make so much ISK. Which I was under the impression people were banned for using. Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:According to CCP security at Fanfest 2012, The Forge alone had more bots then all of nullsec put together
Spots #2 all the way to #12 were all highsec regions as well. And I would wager my implants a fair chunk of those bots are nullsec alts, farming highsec because they don't want to use too many bots in their own backyard and draw attention to themselves.
Shown proof that the majority of Bots are not in Nullsec: Doubles down, claiming that bots not in Nullsec are from nullsec.
Got any evidence of any such connection there, sparky?
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Posted - 2012.09.15 08:26:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:If I did CCP would be the first to know and you would probably be one of the last. Be that as it may my original point stands, it's not fair that new players like myself have to work so hard and take proportionately higher risks for less rewards than players in large nullsec alliances who according to the OP are using tools apparently outlawed by CCP to amass great fortunes and all but remove risk on their end.
Do you have any evidence to suggest said nullsec bot use? Did you see the OP present any evidence of nullsec bot use?
CCP has said that, last time they did a big bot sweep, the Forge had the highest number of bots, followed by 11 other HS regions, while all of Nullsec had fewer bots than the Forge did.
Did you ever consider the possibility that the OP might be wrong?
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Posted - 2012.09.15 17:47:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:For pete's sake just check out the botting forums (no I will not link them, use Google), bots are being banned left right and center.
And it is hilarious.
Or, instead of going to the skeezy side of the internet, head over to the nosy gamer, who does the looking for you.
http://nosygamer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/ccps-war-on-bots-questor-tears-mixed.html
And the botting tears are hilarious.
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Posted - 2012.09.15 21:38:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Does anyone honestly believe that there is even one 23/7 Alliance border gatecamp in operation that isn't entirely manned by bots?
Every once in a while it's fun to just quote a post of a person who has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. Hint: The only semi permanent gatecamp that I've seen in action on any alliance boarder is the EC- gatecamp, and it's not run by bots, it's run by idiots.
I have to quibble here. The EC- camp is funded by idiots. It's persecuted by the people able to prey on idiots.
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Posted - 2012.09.16 00:46:00 -
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KIller Wabbit wrote:Those tears are so old they've all dried up. We need monthly evidence that CCP is staying after this. It's been all quiet on this front for months.
http://nosygamer.blogspot.com/2012/07/ccps-war-on-bots-eve-pilots-bad-june.html
Here's June.
http://nosygamer.blogspot.com/2012/08/ccps-war-on-bots-dont-get-cocky.html
Here's August.
You want more, go find it yourself.
Now, in light of the fact that bots cost CCP money (take a look at the CPU usage per user graphs related to Unholy Rage), why on earth would CCP need to provide monthly reports on their effectiveness that would only serve to aid botters in remaining undetected?
If you have a good faith belief that something has changed with regards to CCP's policy on botting enforcement, why haven't you provided any evidence of such a change?
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Posted - 2012.09.16 08:35:00 -
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General Nusense wrote:Goons run so many bots its unbelievable.
Then why haven't you reported the bots you've clearly uncovered? I don't see why you'd be making such a claim without some evidence to support it, so why not forward said evidence to CCP and solve the problem?
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:40:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Kell Tarhun wrote:
2) CCP made player base responsible of moderation bot issue. Lets be honest i have seen just 1 of 100 times situation when player "reported" another players as bot.
In other way we all pay isk or buy from legal sources plexes to continue playing Eve Online to become moderators and get our game experience about Eve Online to do what CCP should do instead of US
Then you get ppl like Goons who "refuse to police the game FOR CCP" Pipa Porto wrote:General Nusense wrote:Goons run so many bots its unbelievable. Then why haven't you reported the bots you've clearly uncovered? I don't see why you'd be making such a claim without some evidence to support it, so why not forward said evidence to CCP and solve the problem? cause they dont care? Especially about Goon bots.
So you've provided CCP with proof positive of botting, and they've failed to act?
My, that is serious. Why don't you present that proof here and we can start making some noise to force CCP to act?
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Posted - 2012.09.16 21:43:00 -
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Kell Tarhun wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:
Then why haven't you reported the bots you've clearly uncovered? I don't see why you'd be making such a claim without some evidence to support it, so why not forward said evidence to CCP and solve the problem?
Well thats one of the reasons of this post to let CCP do sth about bot issue. As you can see bots are pretty much everywhere no mattar of alliance or is it 0.0 low sec or high sec. They just are. I see no point crucifing any player that use them or any alliance that use them. Bots are and CCP instead of making official statistics where they are, how many of them, in whitch alliance should PREVENT BOTS TO APPEAR IN GAME. Otherwise it is pretty much pointless to discuss who got them and blah blah blah....
If you have evidence of botting, report it to CCP. If you have evidence to show that CCP is ignoring definitive evidence of botting, report it on the forums, or on Kugu, EveNews24, or the like (Kugu would probably love you longtime if you provided them with a scandal like that).
Of course, you're not going to do either, because I strongly suspect that your "evidence" is "well everybody knows they..."
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Posted - 2012.09.17 02:49:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:That's the same thing I said. Most of the people at EC- are in "Special Snowflake" crap, so when it blows up the vast majority of the cost comes out of pocket. They basically sit there to troll no risk free kills (And screw up often).
When I was around there, we rarely lost ships camping around EC-. I suppose times have changed.
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Posted - 2012.09.17 02:50:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:General Nusense wrote:Goons run so many bots its unbelievable. Then why haven't you reported the bots you've clearly uncovered? I don't see why you'd be making such a claim without some evidence to support it, so why not forward said evidence to CCP and solve the problem? Because those aren't bots. Anyone who's ever gone bot hunting knows how to spot bot behavior. It's easier to just cast aspersions then it is to put your own ass on the line via false reporting.
I know that. I was asking those questions as a rhetorical device to point out the fact that the good General is very much full of it.
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